Episode 682: 5 AI video tools you can’t live without with Ian Garlic

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Ralph Burns and Lauren Petrullo sit down with online video storytelling expert Ian Garlic to unpack the collision of artificial intelligence and video marketing. Broadcasting from the legendary Casa de Garlic, they dive into how AI is reshaping content creation—and the critical difference between smart augmentation and soulless automation. Ian shares insider tools, real-world use cases (including a wild Florida Bar AI debacle), and a framework for scaling video that connects, converts, and ranks. From Descript to Airtable to human intuition, this episode is a must-listen for marketers navigating the noisy world of AI-generated everything.

Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Welcome to the Perpetual Traffic Podcast
  • 00:00:35 – The Wild Rise of AI in Video Content
  • 00:02:04 – Is Human Video Dead? The Future of AI Creation
  • 00:03:11 – When AI Hallucinates: Risks, Ethics, and Epic Fails
  • 00:05:31 – SEO Flashbacks and What AI is About to Break
  • 00:11:30 – Behind the Curtain: AI Tools That Actually Work
  • 00:12:33 – Turning Prompts Into Profit: Smarter Content With AI
  • 00:14:28 – Airtable Hacks That Supercharge Your Workflow
  • 00:16:42 – Why AI Alone Will Tank Your Audience Targeting
  • 00:17:20 – Human Touch vs. AI Logic: Striking the Right Balance
  • 00:18:17 – CMOs, Here’s Where AI in Marketing is Headed Next
  • 00:19:59 – How Pro Editors Use AI Without Losing the Plot
  • 00:22:08 – Um, Wait—Do Imperfections Build Trust?
  • 00:24:15 – Jungle Stories, Tall Hair, and Total Authenticity
  • 00:26:30 – Final Takeaways, Laughs, and Where to Find Ian

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5 AI video tools you can’t live without with Ian Garlic

Ralph: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the perpetual traffic podcast. This is your host, Ralph Burns and the founder and CEO of tier 11, alongside my amazing co host

Lauren: Lauren Eve Petrillo, founder of Mongoose media.

Ralph: And we’re so glad you joined us here today. We are in Casa de Garlic in person, in person,

Ian: in person,

Ralph: not AI, but we’re also here with a special guest.

Ralph: I am garlic. And we’re going to be talking today about Ai and video there’s nobody better. Well, there’s nobody better that we can get on perpetual track like that

Lauren: I

Ralph: love it to talk about ai and how it’s used. It’s like we really haven’t talked about this at all on this show That’s crazy Yeah, it’s nuts.

Ralph: I mean, we have teased an episode, I believe a few episodes ago. This might’ve been, one that we [00:01:00] sort of rebroadcast from a tier 11 live. We talked about a test we’re doing right now, which is real video with real humans versus AI generated video with AI generated humans and what that test is going to be.

Ralph: So we’re going to reveal that in a future show. So make sure that you hit the subscribe button wherever you’re watching this. You listen to or watch Perpetual Traffic.

Ralph:

well I’m so proud and happy and honored to be the host of the I and garlic show I’ve always wanted to be Seven foot two strikingly handsome like you are strikingly handsome.

Ralph: Yeah. So that’s AI . That’s AI generated. Well, I could be, you know, six foot four in AI world.

Ian: So you, you can be whatever you want in AI world,

Ralph: whatever, whatever it is. Well, like When I think about video, in all seriousness, like you’re the guy that I think of and because you’re so good at what you do.

Ralph: If you’re not familiar with what Ian does, video case story is his company. We’ve had [00:02:00] him on multiple times here. We’ll leave links in the show notes. And we really haven’t talked about this much. I mean, we’ve talked about AI and a lot of the tools that we’re using and so forth, but in video right now, I think that’s like the final.

Ralph: I wouldn’t say it’s the final frontier, but it’s the frontier that still people are trying to figure out. And I don’t think people really know exactly what tools to use. I know there’s obviously editing tools that you and your team probably use. So we can talk about that here today, which I think will be helpful and useful for a lot of folks that are listening.

Ralph: But, really, it’s like, what is the future of AI? Like, is it going to, at some point, is it going to be indistinguishable between, like, talking head videos and AI generated stuff? what’s your sense as to where the puck is going, so to speak?

Ian: I mean, I’m already seeing stuff that’s Indistinguishable like you can’t tell because I’ve been working with some people and have YouTube channels and like, oh, yeah, this one is because they’ve got it so dialed in and so much of it is like the prompting the [00:03:00] connection.

Ian: obviously the quality of what you put in with AI, but I just can’t help but see a content explosion. And this is where I think it’s going to flip. I mean here’s number one thing. I’m being really careful with what I use AI and YouTube channels because I feel YouTube’s still going to be the future but YouTube will start to filter AI videos.

Ian: It has to, it has to go, do you want to see humans or do you want to see AI? Cause there’s going to be such an explosion of content that people are going to be like, I want the real person because. I mean, we filmed, and this is an AI video, but we, through the Florida Bar Association, we filmed a training for young lawyers on chat GBT think we might be able to put it public put in the show notes, but you’ll see the lawyers in it because they’re getting so nervous because they had a real judge doing this and we’re shooting it.

Ian: And you can see the lawyers get nervous because the lawyers that used it. Completely went down the rabbit hole. Chet Chibuti had all these hallucinations. [00:04:00] Fake cases. Told the attorneys it was real. They brought it to a judge. When they found out it was a fake case, they didn’t tell the judge. Which now is something you can go to jail for.

Ian: Not just lose your license. You can go to jail for lying to a judge. Right? This comes back to the idea of the hallucinations, and we talked about it because it happens in people right where we say this is dogma. This is marketing dogma, and if it’s a really tall, good looking guy that we know that is out there telling on stage.

Ian: Now everyone goes and tells it to everyone else, and then it gets in there. A is doing the same thing so that information can quickly get diluted. So if it’s information. From visually though, I mean, it’s crazy. You can’t tell the difference and, I’m seeing ads for agencies.

Ian: They’re like, Hey, do you want to start your only fans channel with just

Lauren: AI?

Ian: And they’re like showing the videos and like, Oh my God, this is crazy. What’s going on? [00:05:00] so their tools are out there. You can do it, but right now it’s like wielding a chainsaw to. Cut a cake, right? It’s going to get messy.

Ian: So, see the future of it. I mean, you’re using AI, we’re all using tools like KGen, AI agents that are building out AI agents. That’s, I mean, it’s just crazy how fast it’s moving. I do think. You need to be know about it and you need to be thinking about it and using it, especially in your content development.

Ian: But I would be careful from a YouTube and SEO side of making it in your entire channel.

Ralph: Yeah, I think it’s like you bring up a good point is that whenever there’s a new trend that. multiplies the effectiveness. I think of, you know, backlink building or, content spinners. You remember the way back when link farms, link farms, all of that.

Ralph: And that exploded. And that’s kind of when we got out of SEO, for example, because like all those tools, it was so easy to use them and rank, but. There was a finite [00:06:00] lifetime of that. And what I always say is one of the great examples is that when I was in the affiliate world, I ranked for. Almost 90 days for a website using, you know, the, I think it was called like the ultimate spinner and then a bunch of link farms and all this other fake content.

Ralph: And I ranked number one in Google for how to lose weight fast with an exact match domain. So like, remember the exact match domain thing.

Ian: Yeah.

Ralph: And it was great. Like those 90 days were amazing. I made a lot of money with a bunch of scammy affiliate products, which, you know, I’m sort of embarrassed to admit that I sold.

Ralph: But the point was is like, I got on that. And then at some point, Google figures it out. this is the same thing.

Ian: People would always come to me and go, Oh, here’s this new thing. one of it was, you know, Oh, we’ve got it. So we can change the keyword suggest, like when you’re typing something, I’m like, You’re messing with Google’s keyword suggests they employ 25, 000 of the smartest people in the world.

Ian: They use 1 percent of the world’s energy. [00:07:00] And you think that guy you just met from wherever who just started SEO is outsmarting those people at that one thing. my parents, they own restaurants and at one restaurant, they had super valuable, Flatware and would just all disappeared.

Ian: And I was like, I remember telling the story of it and she goes, I’m thinking about a thousand different things. All that person’s thinking about is getting that thing out of the building. So how am I going to beat them? So, but Google, you’ve got the reverse. And that’s where I think I’m like, how are you messing with Google?

Ian: And YouTube has such a good thing going. They’re being really, really careful with it. And because You know, TikTok can go away. You never hear anyone complain about YouTube.

Ralph: It’s amazing. Yeah, it’s true.

Ian: No one goes, oh, I hate everything on YouTube. ’cause they just over there silently taking over tv, taking over everything.

Ralph: And it’s so dialed in. It’s become like my personal habits. It’s like when I turn on my smart tv, it’s like I either go to like the channel that I always watch, like local [00:08:00] sports, and then the next one over is YouTube. Cause I’m like, whatever I click there, there’s going to be something that they’re going to automatically based on my previous history, something that is fundamentally super exciting for me to watch and then I stay and I watch and that’s what I watch.

Ralph: Like

Ian: it’s not helping my ADD.

Ralph: No. Or then I click over to the shorts. The shorts are all, stuff that I’m interested in. It’s crazy how much it’s dialed in. It’s taken away such a share of so many of the other platforms, at least me personally, and you’re right, nobody’s talking about it because they know, the algorithm works so well and if you can keep people watched and engaged and I think AI generated stuff is gonna alienate that platform and that is anathema for them.

Ralph: Like that is the worst thing that they could ever have happen is all of a sudden engagement rates go down because AI takes over. Because the algorithm allows it.

Ian: Yep. they have to be really careful. I think there’s going to be some backlash. And [00:09:00] that’s where, like you were saying, you know, saw so many people with doing all the SEO tactics and then, what was it, Penguin?

Ian: You know, for those of you who have been doing SEO long enough they used to name The updates, they don’t do that anymore, right? Yep, Matt Cutts. Matt Cutts. Oh, you’d watch Matt Cutts and be like, Oh, Matt Cutts had a Diet Coke today. We’re in for it.

Ralph: People like, it was like a mattcutts. com and who is Matt Cutts?

Ralph: Like people monitoring. You don’t know who Matt Cutts is? Yeah, he was back in the SEO. He

Ian: was the head of Google SEO. Yeah.

Lauren: Okay.

Ian: And like whatever Matt cuts, did you watched?

Lauren: Gotcha.

Ian: guess that dates a

Lauren: reference. I was like, name the Google updates.

Ian: No, they named it for animals. So then the penguin, I remember

Lauren: being part of the updates, but I didn’t understand the

Ian: Matt cuts.

Ian: Yeah. So Matt cut, and then one day penguin comes along and shuts every, and there’s so many businesses get shut. cause you can build up the YouTube channel and you can build it up fast. And here’s the other problem I see with it is [00:10:00] if. You don’t get the data from the hooks and if you’re just optimizing, right, and AI is just going to optimize for any type of data can get, if you are going after bigger clients, you’re not going to get any data because they don’t provide any data, like they might subscribe a little bit, so your channel can go really down.

Ian: Attracting the wrong people. I’ve seen this too because I’ve been in a couple of groups and they’re like, oh, I want someone more like you. Right. And I’m like, well, you’re not marketing to us. I just made the logical leap that I want to work with you and. I’m like, but all your other stuff is optimized for the D.

Ian: I. Y. Not that some person I want to learn enough to talk to someone and hire someone

Ralph: makes sense. So think just that unto itself, if you think like you missed out and you should be producing more content using a higher page and or synthesia, all these platforms that are pretty damn good right [00:11:00] now.

Ralph: It’s still the stuff that you actually have to go and shoot and do what we’re doing right now. Physically, we’re in a studio, you know, shooting this thing, which is going to go on YouTube. And then it’s going to go on all our social channels. And like that’s the work that you have to continue to do. So I think for a lot of people who are listening or watching, it’s like.

Ralph: In the back of your mind, am I doing the right thing? Well, if you’re doing it the old school way, it’s still the right thing. second question to that is, how can I use AI to accelerate or at least use tools? And maybe, you know, giving some examples here, the stuff that you guys use as a professional video agency, like, AI tools that you use to increase productivity of those right types of videos?

Ralph: your go to right now? Maybe even like a tool list to a certain degree.

Ian: I mean, we still use premiere cause it does transcripts and you’re going to have higher quality, the Adobe suite’s really good. we are playing around with, some of the open AI video generation, especially for B [00:12:00] roll.

Ian: definitely as far as like color correction, fixing things, you know, taking weird stuff out. AI is amazing. Like, Hey, I don’t want that person to be there. That person’s gone,

Ralph: right?

Ian: I don’t want that bug that’s flying around. It’s Florida.

Ralph: Welcome

Ian: to Florida.

Ralph: Yeah, that bug just got edited out through Premiere.

Ian: yeah. So we use Premiere for that and a few of the other ones that I, Firefly, I think is one of them. Um, obviously we use Descript. Yeah. I love Descript, but also, I’ve been building out our own AI agents. because I have not found a good way, and I’ve used all the models on the agents and building out LLMs so large language models and rags to analyze, but first, very specific analysis because I can’t put something in to chat GPT and it’ll pull out good hooks. it just won’t still. Yeah. And I’m like, oh, I missed this, missed this, missed this, missed this. No matter how much I’m building the prompt [00:13:00] out, because way chat GPT is set up, , so I’ll switch out the models, which, are connecting to that, for the analysis.

Ian: but we’re using Airtable a lot. Yeah, air table a lot for the content and the content structure in the content recall. I think that’s the big, big opportunity is as we build out the content, being able to connect all the content. Quickly and properly and go, Hey, you should, now that you did this, I talked about this year and we kind of do it mentally in our podcast episodes, right?

Ian: And we’re like, Oh, I’m referring to this one. This won’t be, there’s no way you remember all of your podcast episodes, right? Whereas it could go. And if you structure properly, find the right clips. And go here. That’s what we’re doing. More of like, Hey, here’s a little bit of this. Go watch this here no more and figure out that user journey.

Ian: Um, and more analysis. And that’s where the case story piece comes into is because as we’re collecting more of the case stories for clients, we can use the [00:14:00] AI. To analyze what these people are really thinking, because right now it’s using like the generality of, you know, one thing that still cringe a lot is because people still use, like, you have to use an ICP idea.

Ian: I think you’re losing out by saying ICP because you’re not telling the story of the person, but if you know the story of the person, that’s where it’s like, that’s what I’m getting big into. It’s like, what does this person want to know and how quickly can I generate that and test that out?

Ralph: Interesting. How do you use Airtable? in what way, like I understand Premiere Adobe, like I think most people know that, and that’s what our producer uses. Yeah. And I know that, that’s what our video producer at Tier 11 uses, but like our whole staff uses that, but I haven’t heard Airtable, like what is, how do you guys use that?

Ian: So, separating out all the content, and analyzing the content, and getting it into an Airtable, so within Airtable you can have, Automations that automatically happen and say, okay, go find me this or analyze this for hooks or give me a summary of this and so I can have columns [00:15:00] of it. So it becomes faster than for the AI and less chance of it to, have a mistake.

Ian: Right, because the bigger that the A. I. Prompt gets and the more information it goes through, the better chance of a hallucinate hallucination or just a simple little mistake or missing something. So it analyzes it better. And then we’re using things like pine cone and super based, which are vectorized content tables.

Ian: So Even make it faster for it to find the information. but that’s bringing everything together. And so it still comes back to like, Hey, you’ve got to have your core for converting videos. And then we’ve got to have the case stories around it. And then you have your big idea videos. And once you what I call the green zone, you know, where you really own that area where you really have all the information that someone needs to make a buying decision.

Ian: And you really do that because everyone goes straight to cold traffic way out here. And they’re not owning this area where you can be answering everyone’s questions. So once we do that, now we go, Okay, what along this user journey does someone, what other [00:16:00] content does this person want to hear? problems are they not asking about that they’re thinking about?

Ian: And that’s where we’re doing that content analysis with the case stories and then going, Hey, generate me 20 questions they’re thinking about but not asking anyone.

Ralph: Okay, makes sense. how about the short video editors, like take a long video and then throw it in what are your thoughts on any and all of those?

Ralph: Do you guys use those for like the tick tock type formats? You know, I don’t use

Ian: any of the

Ralph: etc.

Ian: we use the script and I’m very specific on the hooks. Because I still don’t see it finding the great hooks and I’m like, I know I haven’t gotten to the point yet.

Ralph: Yeah,

Ian: you know, and I see auto

Ralph: generates.

Ralph: It thinks it knows what the hooks are and it’s right. Maybe 10 or 20 percent of the time. It seems like

Ian: I just, we just onboarded a new client and they went through our discovery process. Like, yeah, we’ve been spent. We spent 30 grand last year on YouTube and I went through and I’m like, it was 100 percent AI generated because it’s like, it made no [00:17:00] sense.

Ian: Yeah, there was no user journey in it, but they don’t know that as a client and I only know that because it’s an industry I’m very well versed in.

Ralph: They think I’m putting out video

Ian: content. That’s what I need to be doing. Yeah,

Lauren: they film it and it was AI generated script.

Ian: AI generated cuts cut.

Lauren: Okay,

Ian: like so they filmed it.

Ian: Yeah, but made no sense. Yeah, and I think you still have to have the human in the machine. but I think that’s where the tool comes in. It’s like, this is where I think across the board, you’re in more trusted authorities that are gonna be running AI tools, but you’re gonna still need that.

Ian: You’re gonna still need like the Lauren running all the AI tools and the route Ralph looking at and going. No, that really doesn’t work. And just that human aspect of it. They have

Ralph: to have that marketing that’s a mindset. It’s really like a tool that could figure out like what your ICP is actually thinking.

Ralph: When we say ICP, it’s Ideal Customer Profile, if you don’t know what that is, but that would be an add to those types of editing tools, I just don’t [00:18:00] see that happening, though, like it’s, you need inferences, you need it to be able to sort of go to a whole other level, granted AI is, the technology behind what we’re seeing right now is

Ian: just

Ralph: quantum leap forward, like every other month, the point is, like, will it actually get to that point?

Ralph: My ICP has these particular issues, figure out what hooks based upon those issues, inferences, and then make shorts out of that. Like, I haven’t seen that happening. Do you think something like that will eventually happen? Because the hook is the thing.

Ian: The hook is the thing. I think, I think the testing of it will happen.

Ian: I think it’ll be able to rapidly scale with ads. go, here’s 10, 000 different hooks. Let me spend 2, 000. JotForm just did that, right? I had them on the show and I’m going to release that episode soon. That’s what they did to test out their ads. It was like 2, 000 different hooks.

Ralph: Really? Yeah.

Ian: And I think that’s where it’s going to go. But I still think you won’t get the [00:19:00] where’s the beef, right? You won’t get the, everyone laughed at me until I sat down and started playing. you have to have a sense of the environment.

Ralph: Hey, I would not pick up that.

Ian: No, no, it wouldn’t. And also, it’s weird on top of it all is I’m noticing speech patterns becoming circular because I’ve listened to so many things and then I actually noticed myself talking, if I watch enough AI videos, starting to talk like AI too, which is, I think we’re going to start to be able to sense that more so than ever before.

Ian: I think it’s, really, yeah. but think you’ll be able to have a guesstimate and if you have enough data in there structured the right way, you’ll be able to talk to a version of your customer, but it won’t be have the humanity, but I mean, I don’t know. Yeah, I think if you’re talking to anyone doing this stuff, that’s just doing AI, you’re gonna have a problem.

Ian: And if you’re talking to anyone that’s not touching the AI, you’re gonna have a problem. I think it’s somewhere in the middle.

Ralph: Somewhere in the middle.

Ian: Yeah.

Ralph: So the tools are [00:20:00] still sort of the same tools in a lot of ways. Descript. Descript. I never know how to pronounce it. I mean, I use it on, the weekly video I do for my agency. It just takes out my ahs and my ums and separates everything. And all of a sudden a seven is now a six minute. Like it’s the, it’s such a great tool, but, that is more nuts and bolts.

Ralph: But I mean, at the end of the day, it’s like, it’s premiere, it’s Adobe, it’s Firefly, it’s that kind of stuff, which there are tools that most video, videographers. Most producers, have been using for years. So it’s not like a huge shift. It’s like they were very much on the vanguard of AI and all the AI tools very quickly.

Ralph: It was kind of, it’s pretty impressive.

Ian: Yeah. I will. And you can look at films. That they’re pushing against even the computer generates, you can still feel it and it really, you know, which one call it was wicked, right? Most of it was practical effects, right?

Ian: wiki was all practical effects and it shows and I think going to notice that I [00:21:00] do think there will be places for a lot of this AI, especially in testing to happen. But, like I said, I think it’s going to have to be filtered, but to your point with the script, I do think that editors that were good at visual editing owned more of the editing process than they should have.

Ian: And now we’re going to see great copywriters owning more of that. That’s a good point because that’s what I used to have to do is I had like our old system was, I’d come back with all the footage. I’d have them batch it out into different angles. and then our storyboards were different angles look at all the footage at each angle and then I’d be like, I’d have someone hand, Transcribe it sometimes.

Ian: And then eventually we got the regular but I would look and say, okay, we want that clip, that clip, that clip, that clip, that clip, that. So as the copywriter, I could do that. And it’s like film, you know, because the editor does off with the directors, they’re watching because he’s really kind of the copywriter of it.

Ralph: he knows which [00:22:00] things, the important things that move the narrative forward. Just the same thing you’re trying to do in video

Ian: and pacing too. Yeah, one other thing

Ian: the ums and ahs, getting rid of the ums and ahs, I’m reading this awesome book I think it might’ve been Adam Grant’s give and take. It’s about communication style and actually the ums and ahs make us more impactful as communicators.

Ian: Interesting. Because when we see someone not being perfect, we get more endeared to them. it’s an interesting thing.

Ralph: I can totally see that.

Ian: Yeah. He talked about one attorney who starts stuttering and they thought he was going to lose the case. It was big litigation. He ended up winning.

Ian: Cause everyone’s like, Oh, I really liked him. Does he become approachable? So there’s that aspect too, when you come to AI and it’s like, you got to think about all these things and also facial expressions. we read facial expressions. We, humans are born to read micro expressions. And you’re like, I know someone’s lying, because you can see, like, you [00:23:00] don’t read it.

Ian: There’s some dissonance that’s

Ralph: happening. The words don’t match what you, in your database of faces, and facial expressions, and non verbal communication, you’re like, there’s something not right here. I don’t, and then you get that feeling in the back of your,

Ian: of

Ralph: your head, you’re like, something’s not right with that guy, or whatever it is, yeah.

Ian: And that’s where, I mean, with case stories, like, that’s why I always tell people not to have an interview style and not have scripts and not ask for testimonials because we read the faces. But if they’re either reading a script or they’re nervous, the nervous comes across as lying. Interesting. Yeah. And we go.

Ian: That’s a super good point, actually. And that’s where, like, we’ve got to make that person comfortable. Yeah. Because we think that they’re lying. In the back of your head, you might never be saying that, just like, there’s something off about what they’re saying. And I think that can do more harm to,

Ralph: and it becomes so much more natural.

Ian: Yeah. and it’s so easy. I think AI, the, like just doing purely informational stuff. this is what you need to learn and da da da da. I think the training videos, training videos. Yeah. Yeah. I could [00:24:00] see

Ralph: it

Ian: there. And I’ve been watching a lot of stuff and I’m realizing, Oh, this, this is the AI version of that guy.

Ian: And I actually found myself as I was talking about it, actually talking like the AI. I’m like, Whoa, that was weird. That’s wild. So anyways,

Ralph: well, that’s cool. It’s been a great being the host of the eye and garlic show today. And AI is going to make me six foot five. Like I said before, I said seven foot two.

Ralph: I think that’s just too tall for me.

Lauren: Depends.

Ralph: Yeah. Depends. Chad wouldn’t like it all that much. Uh, that’s the most important part. So yeah. Your,

Lauren: your wardrobe would suffer.

Ralph: My wardrobe would suffer. Yeah. It’s, it’s

Ian: difficult to

Ralph: find clothes. I’d have to re outfit. Yeah. To go to like those big and tall stores.

Ralph: Yeah. Yeah. Like I’m the, I’m the average size guy. Five nine. Yeah. Size nine and a half feet. Like they’re everywhere. Yeah.

Ian: It’s

Ralph: everywhere. Yeah. It’s everywhere.

Lauren: I’m the shortest one at this table.

Ralph: You seem the second tallest to me.

Lauren: My [00:25:00] ego compensates. My vertical.

Ralph: It’s between the stilettos and sometimes the hair. when you came to the The not so mansion mansion mastermind which was amazing, but it was not it was

Lauren: really cool Yeah,

Ralph: it was very cool your your hair. You looked like seven feet tall.

Ralph: You were like the tallest person there It was an you’re an optical illusion. I think that’s what it is.

Lauren: That is how I describe myself. Yeah When i’m like 90 percent legs

Ralph: That’s true.

Ian: So make sure you check out ion over at videocastory. com. Any other places where people can find you?

Ian: I’m on the YouTube.

Ralph: You’re on the YouTube. The real Ion Garlic.

Ian: The real Ion Garlic. I have Ion Garlic and the real Ion Garlic. Okay. They’re two, they’re two different ones and videocastory. And yeah, you can find all my old videos on there.

Ian: My most successful one is of rare Costa Rican animals that climbed all over me.

Ralph: Really?

Ian: Yeah.

Ralph: We’ll have to find a link in that.

Ian: Yeah, in the show notes. Yeah.

Ralph: Yeah.

Ian: Yeah, so it was [00:26:00] really interesting cause like you’ll see me like feeding one or two of them and then you look up and there’s like a thousand of them all came out of the jungle and they start climbing up me.

Ian: And I would be completely freaked out. Yeah. Yeah. So,

Ralph: As

Lauren: long as it’s caught on camera, I would be allowed.

Ralph: Yeah, absolutely. And it’s not AI generated. It’s not AI generated. It’s actually real. It’s

Ian: real.

Ralph: Well, we’ll leave links to all those very cool videos of I am being crawled over by,

Ian: you know,

Ralph: rare tropical animals over at perpetualtraffic.

Ralph: com. And we would really appreciate wherever you listen to podcasts, leave us a rating or review. A five star rating or review we would really, really like. Those are good.

Lauren: They’re our favorites.

Ralph: They are our favorites. But an honest review. We haven’t read reviews in quite some time. We need to start reading our reviews again.

Ralph: So we will make that as part of our pledge in the next month of shows.

Lauren: Pinky promise.

Ralph: Pinky promise. give us a review on wherever you listen, or a comment over on Spotify, [00:27:00] and we’ll read it out onto the air, you’ll become podcast famous for 15 minutes or so. So that’s over at perpetualtraffic.

Ralph: com.

Lauren: Someone should leave a review just being like, oh my gosh, I love Perpetual Traffic, almost as much as I love videocastory. com. Just go to videocastory. com and insert their own free tweet. There you

Ralph: go, right there, it’s like a two for one. Two for one. Fantastic. All right, so on behalf of my amazing co host Lauren E.

Ralph: Petrullo. Ciao! And Ian Garlick for coming on Perpetual Traffic. Thanks for coming along. Thanks for having me. Your studio.

Ian: My studio. for coming to Garlick Studios.

Ralph: Until next show. See ya.

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